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Dagne Details (1)September 18, 2008 Comments (14)
 
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We have received lots of specific questions recently about Dagne. We will try and answer most of them here:

1 – Tire Wear: Dagne’s tires are motorcycle stock, which tend to wear faster than car tires. We will address this issue by offering tires with a range of handling vs. endurance. The net cost-of-ownership for Dagne, including tire replacement and batteries is substantially less than a typical car, particularly because Dagne will last much longer than a typical car without significant servicing due to the low-wear characteristic of the electric drive system, and due to the low recharging/refueling cost.

2 – Joystick Features: Finger control on the joystick will incorporate turn signals, head lights, wipers/washer, and cruise control ON/OFF. The joystick nominal position can be easily adjusted while driving (allowing use of either hand).

3 – Joystick legal issues: There is currently no FMVSS regulation that prevents the use of a joystick in vehicles, neither is there regulation that specifically allows it (except for disabled drivers). Although there is no roadblock for the joystick presently, we in the early stages of lobbying for legislation that specifically allows joysticks in vehicles, based on the safety improvements it provides.

Thank you again for all the contributions, comments, and questions. We look forward to hearing more from you.


14 Comments

  1. Very encouraged with the update on the joystick. It would be interesting to know how the idea evolved. Also, are the posted performance specifications validated in any way by the prototype or are these purely calculated targets?

    Comment by edavisc — September 18, 2008 @ 8:10 pm

  2. Thank you for your info…. this clears up many questions that I have.
    Keep up the good work and If you could please keep us informed of the progress, P. S. is there any pics of Dagne in 360 degrees ? i’d like to see the whole design if you have anything !

    Thanks so much …

    Comment by timo — September 18, 2008 @ 8:36 pm

  3. Thank you with providing us with this information. This looks like a very revolutionary vehicle. The first of it’s kind, and maybe the only one of it’s kind to ever make it to market. I look forward to owning and driving one.

    Comment by byteware — September 22, 2008 @ 7:27 am

  4. I have been a venture vehicle fan for some time,but your vehicle is in the running for my next vehicle purchase.
    I do like the idea of a joystick and if your spec’s are true and for a 20k price you just might sell a lot of these vehicles.
    One question, will the Dagne have airbags, stereo system,and air conditioning?

    Comment by denisg — September 29, 2008 @ 3:17 pm

  5. denisg…

    the Dagne will have airbags.

    They are “investigating a more energy-efficient means than conventional AC” to cool the cabin.

    and I don’t know for certain, but I would assume that yes they will have a stereo system.

    Comment by byteware — September 30, 2008 @ 11:07 am

  6. The joystick is my biggest concern with the Dagne. I’ve been through the site and read up on the research and experiences you report, and I am not discrediting them at all. My concern is not even in the *change* or *unconventional* direction this takes. But, I’m concerned with a psychological change people have to go through.

    Historically, any vehicle always separated throttle and braking from steering. And I think for good reasons, intentional or not. I know no matter what vehicle I drive that if my accelerator got stuck or my brakes failed, I would always be able to steer the vehicle. Likewise, if the steering went bad, I could always accelerate or brake.

    Think of it like this – what if you got in your car and were driving down the highway and you steering wheel pulled right off (like a race car). You might panic, but you have your brakes. If all of that is in a joystick, then you are literally at the mercy of the machine (along for the ride).

    If a conventional steering wheel, brake, and throttle pedals are just no longer *cool* then I suggest at least have two controls (interchangable if you must) one for steering (only moving left and right with turn signla controls) and another for throttle/braking (only moving front to back with controls for headlights and cruise).

    Thanks for allowing me the opportunity to share my concerns.

    Comment by skemcin — October 2, 2008 @ 7:17 am

  7. ADDITIONAL NOTE: all we need these days is one hand free from the driving task. One controller will only promote the use of the other for performing tasks that distract the driver from driving. If anything, there should be two control to ensure the driver is always using both hands and paying attention.

    Comment by skemcin — October 2, 2008 @ 7:35 am

  8. BREAKING NEWS! The “bail out” of Wall Street just passed the House. It’s official. I hate it…EXCEPT that it was attached to a tax cut bill. And DAGNE can be a huge beneficiary for its buyers if Revolution can accelerate production before Pelosi and her gang find a way to do away with it. The new law includes “Establishing a new tax credit ranging from $2,500 to $7,500 for purchasers of plug-in electric-drive vehicles.”

    So let’s all encourage Ben and his crew to put their development into high gear and bring DAGNE to market ahead of projections. I, for one, would love a direct tax credit of up to $7,000 for buying a DAGNE!

    Comment by BeerBrewer — October 3, 2008 @ 12:07 pm

  9. Hi to the other FlytheRoad members.

    Ben, the Dagne looks really interesting. It’s much like the V1 is style and like the Aptera in it’s drive.

    As one of the early supporters of the V1 I’ll also be one of your early supporters. I wish both companies good luck. Let the shoot out begin:)

    BTW, since I’m in the LA area I’d love to test drive the prototype some time.

    My thoughts on what I’ve read so far.

    1) Joystick will be interesting but I’ve said that before about adding it to the V1.

    2) It still has the inline seating design which I like.

    3) Seat spacing and leg room is something that’s important to me. Need to have two 6′ 2″ guys fit.

    4) Doors, I want to hear more about how the doors will be done. Will the placement be on the left or right. As my fellow FtR members know I prefer the right side door for safety.

    5) Controls. I don’t agree requiring both hands on the control as skemcin does. I want one hand free. Having one hand free does not promote unsafe driving.

    6) A daylight readable LCD console will be great. Everything right up front. Display themes would be great so we can set the display to our likes. Make it driver selectable. Touch screen should be included. Not everything needs to be on the stick.

    Comment by Timon — October 4, 2008 @ 6:32 am

  10. Any thoughts about the rear seat door on the right side like the Benz 3 wheeler?

    Comment by tugboatwilly — October 24, 2008 @ 5:02 pm

  11. Thanks! Nice post.

    Comment by ErvinTW — November 11, 2008 @ 1:32 pm

  12. I haven’t seen any posts newer than December of 2008.
    Have people lost interest? All questions have been
    answered? Need more grist for the mill?
    In this tight economy everyone seems to be hard
    pressed to get funding for any project at all.
    Maybe start from the other end…A less expensive
    way to get solar panels installed on more homes.
    Cost seems to be what’s stopping more folks from
    getting off the grid. Find a way to use off-the-
    shelf items in a less expensive way.
    Plug-in cars would be more interesting to a lot of
    people without having to pay the electric company
    or anything at all for gas.

    Comment by killervolt — July 8, 2009 @ 4:55 pm

  13. Killervolt – I like your comments and suggestions. We are very interested in ideas to get our vehicle to market for less invested cash, and we have working along these lines earnestly while we continue to pursue funding. The lack of activity on our Blog is largely due to our stalled vehicle development while we are focused on fund raising. I don’t believe the lull reflects a lack of interest in what we are doing. It certainly doesn’t reflect any lack of effort on our part – we at Revolution Motors continue to dedicate our lives to making our vision a reality.

    Comment by Ben Werner — July 10, 2009 @ 1:54 pm

  14. Thanks again for pursuing my dream… I have only one hand & 1 foot: please end the 2 hand control ideas. Thanks.

    Comment by Wade Reckinger — April 5, 2011 @ 11:43 am


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